Maximum Velocity
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Ik vrees dat de topic starter niet zo goed Nederlands kan. Het is ook weleens aardig om in andere talen te oh'en
Benelli Tornado 900 RS
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Ik vrees dat de topic starter niet zo goed Nederlands kan. Het is ook weleens aardig om in andere talen te oh'en
UPP-Racing
MF veteraan
Beetje bekrompen
Als je zo'n opmerking plaatst wens ik ook een uitleg. Het is toch niet meer dan logisch dat je in een taal converseert die iedereen kan begrijpen? Lekker als de hele wereld hier gaat zitten lullen in 50 talen...
Well my dear friends, the internet is free to the world, if you dont like it ,dont read it!
Put your energy in things you do understand, if you dont i will.
For me the item is closed and i will continue do use my freedom of speech( in any language that i choose).
Holland is full of little rules ( the little finger) and now i will enjoy myself with this fun motorforum.
'p.s. kan ook in Duits, Frans, Spaans , Portugees en Italiaans!
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UPP-Racing
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Well my dear friends, the internet is free to the world, if you dont like it ,dont read it!
Put your energy in things you do understand, if you dont i will.
For me the item is closed and i will continue do use my freedom of speech( in any language that i choose).
Holland is full of little rules ( the little finger) and now i will enjoy myself with this fun motorforum.
p.s. kan ook in Duits, Frans, Spaans , Portugees en Italiaans!
Wat een slap geouwehoer. Ik vind het geweldig dat je je talen spreekt en jezelf een wereldburger waant, maar het is en blijft ten slotte een Nederlands forum. Het is dan wel toegankelijk voor de rest van de wereld, maar er staat nog altijd .nl achter, dus pas je dan aan aan die desbetreffende site. Zo ook de taal die daar gesproken wordt.
Nogmaals wil ik benadrukken dat er zat mensen zijn die geen flauw idee hebben waar het over gaat. Ik vind dat niet netjes. Als jij met mij en nog wat anderen in een kamer gezellig zit te babbelen en ineens ga ik Arabisch lullen met de rest, waardoor jij geen flauw benul hebt waar we het over hebben, zou niet erg respectabel zijn ten opzichte van jou? Toch?
Je snapt het dus echt niet,dit is echt het laatste:
Als je een GAST op bezoek krijgt op je site ( en ja dit komt voor op internet), dan moet je de hoffelijkheid hebben......
Och laat maar, morgenvroeg kan je naar het schaatsen kijken( hup Holland Hup).
UPP-Racing
MF veteraan
Ik snap je wel, maar ben het niet met je eens. Een gast hoort zich aan te passen, niet andersom. In Frankrijk praat ik Frans, in Spanje Spaans en in Nederland, verdomd... Nederlands! En waar slaat die laatste opmerking in godsnaam op? Ik hou niet eens van schaatsen. Als je woorden op zijn ga je dan altijd katten?
Crimsondevil11
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- #58
BlitzeR1: Merci de me critiquer en néérlandais, dommage que je n'ai pas la maîtrise de ta langue pour te renvoyer d'où tu viens...l'idée en venant sur votre forum était de vous faire partager les photos d'une moto un peu rare, vu qu'à la base on est surtout passionnés de moto malgré la différence de langue. Je suis aussi allé sur des forums italiens et personne n'a rien dit. Maintenant si tu as un cerveau aussi limité au point de ne pas parler ou écrire de langue étrangère je n'y peux rien.
PS: quand on est une tête de lard qui n'aiment pas les langues étrangères on évite de faire la frime en mettant des trucs en anglais dans sa signature.
Yamaha YZF R6 (totall loss)
Ducati 996 SPS (mooi, maar Duc doet z'n reputatie eer aan)
Nu: Yamaha YZF R1 and loving it!
BlitzeR1 : thanks to criticise me in your language, sadly I don't write it or I will turn you back from where you are...my idea coming in this forum was to show you some pics of this rare bike, because it seems that at first we are all bike addicts despite the diference of language. I also write some threads on Italians forums but nobody says anything. But now if your brain is so small that you aren't able to learn another tongue than yours I can't do nothing for you...
PS: if dirty bastard who don't care about foreign languages, dont put some english words inside your signature pour little bugger.
Yamaha YZF R6 (totall loss)
Ducati 996 SPS (mooi, maar Duc doet z'n reputatie eer aan)
Nu: Yamaha YZF R1 and loving it!
[Edit Spider: dat soort verwijzingen maak je maar ergens anders]
PS: quand on est une tête de lard qui n'aiment pas les langues étrangères on évite de faire la frime en mettant des trucs en anglais dans sa signature.
Yamaha YZF R6 (totall loss)
Ducati 996 SPS (mooi, maar Duc doet z'n reputatie eer aan)
Nu: Yamaha YZF R1 and loving it!
BlitzeR1 : thanks to criticise me in your language, sadly I don't write it or I will turn you back from where you are...my idea coming in this forum was to show you some pics of this rare bike, because it seems that at first we are all bike addicts despite the diference of language. I also write some threads on Italians forums but nobody says anything. But now if your brain is so small that you aren't able to learn another tongue than yours I can't do nothing for you...
PS: if dirty bastard who don't care about foreign languages, dont put some english words inside your signature pour little bugger.
Yamaha YZF R6 (totall loss)
Ducati 996 SPS (mooi, maar Duc doet z'n reputatie eer aan)
Nu: Yamaha YZF R1 and loving it!
[Edit Spider: dat soort verwijzingen maak je maar ergens anders]
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Merci,peut-etre il a compris.BlitzeR1: Merci de me critiquer en néérlandais, dommage que je n'ai pas la maîtrise de ta langue pour te renvoyer d'où tu viens...l'idée en venant sur votre forum était de vous faire partager les photos d'une moto un peu rare, vu qu'à la base on est surtout passionnés de moto malgré la différence de langue. Je suis aussi allé sur des forums italiens et personne n'a rien dit. Maintenant si tu as un cerveau aussi limité au point de ne pas parler ou écrire de langue étrangère je n'y peux rien.
PS: quand on est une tête de lard qui n'aiment pas les langues étrangères on évite de faire la frime en mettant des trucs en anglais dans sa signature.
Yamaha YZF R6 (totall loss)
Ducati 996 SPS (mooi, maar Duc doet z'n reputatie eer aan)
Nu: Yamaha YZF R1 and loving it!
BlitzeR1: thanks to criticise me in your language, sadly I don't write it or I will turn you back from where you are...my idea coming in this forum was to show you some pics of this rare bike, because it seems that at first we are all bike addicts despite the diference of language. I also write some threads on Italians forums but nobody says anything. But now if your brain is so small that you aren't able to learn another tongue than yours I can't do nothing for you...
PS: if dirty bastard who don't care about foreign languages, dont put some english words inside your signature pour little bugger.
Yamaha YZF R6 (totall loss)
Ducati 996 SPS (mooi, maar Duc doet z'n reputatie eer aan)
Nu: Yamaha YZF R1 and loving it!
[Edit Spider: tekst in de quote ff aangepast]
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Brother Louie
MF veteraan
Some pics from de bikeshow a Bruxelles, last friday
[me]Brother Louie on a policemotorcycle
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[me]Brother Louie on a policemotorcycle
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Crimsondevil11
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- #61
Spyro : comme disais Brassens..."Quand on est con, on est con !!!" le net c'est justement briser les frontières non ??
Brother Louie : Thanks for the pics at first I was wishing that Benelli get the historical green/silver on the RS, but finally they choose the red/black. Anyway the green shining is wonderfull.
Wow cops are sponsored by Bridgestone in Netherland
that's my favorites rubbers, but yet I have to live with Dunlops...
Anyone lonving Supermono over there ??? I have raced a Cagiva HVA670 engine equiped for 2 years...great bike to ride
Brother Louie : Thanks for the pics at first I was wishing that Benelli get the historical green/silver on the RS, but finally they choose the red/black. Anyway the green shining is wonderfull.
Wow cops are sponsored by Bridgestone in Netherland
that's my favorites rubbers, but yet I have to live with Dunlops...Anyone lonving Supermono over there ??? I have raced a Cagiva HVA670 engine equiped for 2 years...great bike to ride
Crimsondevil11
MF'er
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Spyro : yes they sorted it on the Novecento as well as gearbox and anti-dribbling problems. The RS runs faultless. And those radial brakes are so good 
Good choice the RC51 for racetrack....my work during 5 years was to modify suspensions and I have done dozen of SP1, Showas are great...
Supermotard ??? goes for the HM (Honda) CRF450 or HVA 450 if you like extrême bikes...or modify a Suzuki DRZ if you need something to commuting as well.
But if you like great sensations and big bore, goes for the HVA 570 SMR or KTM Duke II![:]](/styles/motor-forum/smilies/crossy.gif "Crossy :]")
Good choice the RC51 for racetrack....my work during 5 years was to modify suspensions and I have done dozen of SP1, Showas are great...
Supermotard ??? goes for the HM (Honda) CRF450 or HVA 450 if you like extrême bikes...or modify a Suzuki DRZ if you need something to commuting as well.
But if you like great sensations and big bore, goes for the HVA 570 SMR or KTM Duke II
Brother Louie
MF veteraan
Do u know a good suspensionsetting for roaduse on a RC51 a.k.a SP1?
Thanks, i will try them out!Spyro : yes they sorted it on the Novecento as well as gearbox and anti-dribbling problems. The RS runs faultless. And those radial brakes are so good
Good choice the RC51 for racetrack....my work during 5 years was to modify suspensions and I have done dozen of SP1, Showas are great...
Supermotard ??? goes for the HM (Honda) CRF450 or HVA 450 if you like extrême bikes...or modify a Suzuki DRZ if you need something to commuting as well.
But if you like great sensations and big bore, goes for the HVA 570 SMR or KTM Duke II
I changed my showa suspensions for WP racing suspensions, i dont know how the result will be, shake down of the bike with the new set-up will be at Barcelona!
I think if Wp gets to be world champion in supersports and endurance( was also on S.Plater's bike wen he started to win in BSB) it will be good enough for me!
edraket
MF veteraan
what about fuel consumption? The 900Tre we tested was veeeeery thirsty. We rode over 2000 kilometers and the bike had an average of 1:10 which gave the bike a very limited milage per tank. (about 100 kilometers when the fuel light lights up, we rode max. 160 on one tank of fuel, with only 2 drops left in the tank)Spyro : yes they sorted it on the Novecento as well as gearbox and anti-dribbling problems. The RS runs faultless. And those radial brakes are so good
Good choice the RC51 for racetrack....my work during 5 years was to modify suspensions and I have done dozen of SP1, Showas are great...
Supermotard ??? goes for the HM (Honda) CRF450 or HVA 450 if you like extrême bikes...or modify a Suzuki DRZ if you need something to commuting as well.
But if you like great sensations and big bore, goes for the HVA 570 SMR or KTM Duke II
And yes, the tre had clutch problems, injection problems but hoooweeee what a sound. Absolutely addictive.
Crimsondevil11
MF'er
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- #67
Seems difficult to have something good with stocks settings purposes...but with 400 € worth you can obtain something near perfect...
The fact is that Showas are good basis to obtain something very good. With Race Tech products for exemple. www.race-tech.com
But at first you have to perfectly set yours preloads, hence at first your springs rates will be checked. Note that's more important to set up you springs than modify your external hydraulic adjustments.
Here's how to measure it.
First extend the forks or shock completely and measure from the wiper to the bottom of the triple clamp on forks or from the axle to a vertical reference point on the chassis. This is L1.
Take the bike off the stand, put the rider on board in riding position. Get an assistant to balance the bike or have the rider hold onto something, comress the suspension about 25 mm (1") and let it extend very slowly (slowly is the critical term). Where it stops, measure the distance between the wiper and the bottom of the triple clamp or the axle and the reference point on the chassis again. Do not bounce. This is L2. (If there were no friction in the seals the bike would come up a little further.)
Next lift up on the suspension and let it drop very slowly. Where it stops measure again. Do not bounce. This is L3. The reason L2 and L3 are different is due to stiction or drag in the seals and bushings. (If there were no friction in the seals or the linkage the bike would drop a little further.)
Half way between L1 and L2 is where it would come to rest with no friction. Therefore L2 and L3 must be averaged and subtracted from L1 to calculate true Static Sag.
Static Sag = L1 - (L3 + L2)/2
To adjust Static Sag make longer or shorter preload spacers or use the preload adjusters, if available.
It is important to note that there are no magic Sag numbers. However here are some guidelines to use as starting points.
Bike Type Front % Front mm Rear % Rear mm Rear Free Sag mm
Street Bikes 28-33% 30-35mm 28-33% 30-35mm 0-5mm
Road Race Bikes 23-27% 25-30mm 23-27% 25-30mm 0-5mm
The fact is that Showas are good basis to obtain something very good. With Race Tech products for exemple. www.race-tech.com
But at first you have to perfectly set yours preloads, hence at first your springs rates will be checked. Note that's more important to set up you springs than modify your external hydraulic adjustments.
Here's how to measure it.
First extend the forks or shock completely and measure from the wiper to the bottom of the triple clamp on forks or from the axle to a vertical reference point on the chassis. This is L1.
Take the bike off the stand, put the rider on board in riding position. Get an assistant to balance the bike or have the rider hold onto something, comress the suspension about 25 mm (1") and let it extend very slowly (slowly is the critical term). Where it stops, measure the distance between the wiper and the bottom of the triple clamp or the axle and the reference point on the chassis again. Do not bounce. This is L2. (If there were no friction in the seals the bike would come up a little further.)
Next lift up on the suspension and let it drop very slowly. Where it stops measure again. Do not bounce. This is L3. The reason L2 and L3 are different is due to stiction or drag in the seals and bushings. (If there were no friction in the seals or the linkage the bike would drop a little further.)
Half way between L1 and L2 is where it would come to rest with no friction. Therefore L2 and L3 must be averaged and subtracted from L1 to calculate true Static Sag.
Static Sag = L1 - (L3 + L2)/2
To adjust Static Sag make longer or shorter preload spacers or use the preload adjusters, if available.
It is important to note that there are no magic Sag numbers. However here are some guidelines to use as starting points.
Bike Type Front % Front mm Rear % Rear mm Rear Free Sag mm
Street Bikes 28-33% 30-35mm 28-33% 30-35mm 0-5mm
Road Race Bikes 23-27% 25-30mm 23-27% 25-30mm 0-5mm
Maximum Velocity
MF veteraan
I think that the red/black version is even more beautiful. But that's personal taste....
Brother Louie
MF veteraan
Thx, my pre load is already adjusted within those preloadspecs, with the adjusters
UPP-Racing
MF veteraan
BlitzeR1 : thanks to criticise me in your language, sadly I don't write it or I will turn you back from where you are...my idea coming in this forum was to show you some pics of this rare bike, because it seems that at first we are all bike addicts despite the diference of language. I also write some threads on Italians forums but nobody says anything. But now if your brain is so small that you aren't able to learn another tongue than yours I can't do nothing for you...
PS: if dirty bastard who don't care about foreign languages, dont put some english words inside your signature pour little bugger.
Yamaha YZF R6 (totall loss)
Ducati 996 SPS (mooi, maar Duc doet z'n reputatie eer aan)
Nu: Yamaha YZF R1 and loving it!
First of all, I was not talking to you. Second, I was just making my point to spyro about what a mess it would become when the whole world starts to post here in their own languages. Not all Dutchmen speak French, German or whatever. So try to keep it in Dutch as much as you can and if not in English. Too bad you start calling me names without consulting me first. I think I speak for many people here if I say that they would like to know what you're all talking about on a Dutch motor-forum. Some people are just not smart enough to learn other languages. And when you say things like this: "But now if your brain is so small that you aren't able to learn another tongue than yours I can't do nothing for you"... my god you're pathetic. My guess is your brain is too big to organize your cells in a way you can understand that some among us are not able to learn other languages. You should respect that when you visit another country.
PS
Referring to me as a nazi by calling me 'Blitz****'. That's a little low don't you think? Big words for a small man.
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Crimsondevil11
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OK next goes to modify compression shims inside the fork. Very easy on the SP1. You have to unscrew the compression stack at the front of the fork. First remove oil, next just unscrew at the level of the square under the external compression ajuster. Next remove the shims and to put another sizes depending of what you need... (let me know if you want the suspension softer or harder at low or high velocity)
janice
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hi, now i know who you are!
You have a very nice bike to!
You have a very nice bike to!
Crimsondevil11
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Hi Janice
Nice to read you ..you know who I am ... that's great. I'll give you an E-mail back. Cheers.
Blitz : one rule that suit for Forums everywhere in the world is not polluting threads with dicussions out of the first subject. And if you don't like my english anyway I never invite you here. or perhaps have you something to write about Benelli Tre or any other motorcyle..if not just get out. ThanX
Nice to read you
..you know who I am ... that's great. I'll give you an E-mail back. Cheers.Blitz : one rule that suit for Forums everywhere in the world is not polluting threads with dicussions out of the first subject. And if you don't like my english anyway I never invite you here. or perhaps have you something to write about Benelli Tre or any other motorcyle..if not just get out. ThanX
Crimsondevil11
MF'er
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Edraket : yes the Novecento with the first mapping was madly thirsty but with updated fuel map that's better. With the RS I can achieve between 170-200 km before the fuel led light on. But the best was the MV with it I can reach 200 km full throttle and 250-270 km running low rpms...read 200 mph on the motorway
And yes the sound is so great...
And yes the sound is
so great...
